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Discuss various aspects of the Honorverse universe here. Please be mindful of what you post, as not everybody has read the same amount of books. DO NOT post Honorverse fan fiction here under ANY circumstances!
 #18165  by Brad Zeak
 Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:36 pm
I apologize if this topic already exists somewhere and I'll admit, I'm only on Book 4. However is it just me or in the Honorverse, has humanity shrunk? It seems as if every new person Honor is introduced to, she's taller than them and she's only 6'2". In fact the only person I can recall being introduced who is taller than her is Thor Simengaard who is 6'6" but he's the product of genetic engineering. But other than that, she seems to tower over Manticorans, Gryphons, and Graysons. I don't remember seeing much mention of her height is normal for Sphinx or not. I could just seing something that isn't there. I know I'm 6'1" and I encounter people who are taller than me all the time. So I find it strange that such a big deal is made of a woman being just 1 inch taller than me but is a full head taller than most people she encounters.
 #18169  by Zachary White
 Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:54 pm
Brad Zeak wrote:I apologize if this topic already exists somewhere and I'll admit, I'm only on Book 4. However is it just me or in the Honorverse, has humanity shrunk? It seems as if every new person Honor is introduced to, she's taller than them and she's only 6'2". In fact the only person I can recall being introduced who is taller than her is Thor Simengaard who is 6'6" but he's the product of genetic engineering. But other than that, she seems to tower over Manticorans, Gryphons, and Graysons. I don't remember seeing much mention of her height is normal for Sphinx or not. I could just seing something that isn't there. I know I'm 6'1" and I encounter people who are taller than me all the time. So I find it strange that such a big deal is made of a woman being just 1 inch taller than me but is a full head taller than most people she encounters.
She and I have an encounter - and while my height is never specified - I’m 6’4 - so, I’ve got her there :p


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 #18184  by Samirah Johnstone
 Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:12 pm
Admiral White Haven is taller (though not sure it is mentioned how much taller exactly). And there are others.

However, it is quite realistic that many who go to space aren't going to be quite as tall as you would see elsewhere. And for the Graysons, they wouldn't on average be anywhere close to as tall either because of nutrition and diet and other factors.

But she is tall for a female, especially in space I think is what it boils down to.
 #18195  by Brad Zeak
 Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:35 am
I guess. My wife is 6'1" and her sister is like 6'3". But the amount of men who seem to be only 5'... it's one thing right now for short folks to be in space but this is over 2,000 years from now and they build ships that fit 8,000 people on them...I guess it just seems suprising to me how many people she's taller than.
 #18221  by Joe Grieco
 Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:40 am
Trust me on this - height can be a factor in a cramped personal area. I served on Submarines, and at 5'11', it was a bit cramped, especially regarding the length of a bunk. Honor's father, and one of my shipmates, were 6'5". Think about this on racks routinely designed for people who were 5'8" or 5'9".
 #18247  by Brad Zeak
 Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:26 am
Joe Grieco wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:40 am
Trust me on this - height can be a factor in a cramped personal area. I served on Submarines, and at 5'11', it was a bit cramped, especially regarding the length of a bunk. Honor's father, and one of my shipmates, were 6'5". Think about this on racks routinely designed for people who were 5'8" or 5'9".
Right but that's with modern day building techniques. I mean, how cramped is a Battlecruiser in the Honorverse? Didn't they manage to fit the entire crew of one into a corridor when Henke left for her own command? Like I said, it just seems strange to me that they make such a huge deal of her height and it seems as if the males are really short but maybe it's because I'm so used to the 6' plus members of my family. At 6'1" I am the shortest male in my family
 #18306  by John Fairbairn, KCE
 Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:19 am
Brad Zeak wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:26 am
... I'm so used to the 6' plus members of my family. At 6'1" I am the shortest male in my family.
Spacer Zeak -

I come from a different genetic background ... Gaelic. I say different, because it is quite common amongst the Gaels for males to be tall (above 6 feet) and females to be short (under 5 feet 3 inches). Also, I have a combined genetic coding for height, which comes from a father who was 6 feet 1 inch tall, and a mother who was 5 feet even (her mother was 4 feet 10 inches, and her father was 5 feet tall) In my case, my genetic heritage expressed as 5 feet 11 inches at age 25. I am the shortest male in my father's family. All of the others are 6 feet tall or taller.

My wife also is Gaelic, and is an odd lot. Her mother and father were even in height, at 5 feet 5 inches. Her genetics expressed at 5 feet 8 inches at age 25.

However, then our family experienced a dichotomy. As expected from two parents, both of whom are 'tall', my son followed true to form. His genetics expressed at 6 feet 3.5 inches. However, my daughter is the spitting image of my mother, in figure, features, and nearly so in height - 5 feet 2 inches, 105 lbs. Her husband is 6 feet tall.

Now my grandson, at age 13, already is 5 feet 9 inches and bids fair to overtake his uncle. My daughter looks up at him and just shakes her head. But he does not mess with her - she used to be an assets protection officer in a mall security force. The greater-than 6 foot, 200 lb cops with whom she trained hated to do take-down training with her - she'd inevitably put them onto the mat, hard. :lol: Heck, I wouldn't mess with her, and neither would her brother. She'd body slam either one of us around like a dirty mop. :P

Genes iz weird, Dude. :lol:

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