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Discuss various aspects of the Honorverse universe here. Please be mindful of what you post, as not everybody has read the same amount of books. DO NOT post Honorverse fan fiction here under ANY circumstances!
 #17537  by Chester Beedle
 Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:49 am
John Fairbairn, KCE wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:42 am
Chester Beedle wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:59 pm
If we were to say the ship was lost in battle, lost to accident, or even completely decommissioned and the new ship is there to keep the name alive... think of the USS Enterprise, the one that recently had it's keel laid will be I think the 4th ship of the name ...
Just a small note here - The name Enterprise has been applied to a rather more lengthy list of US ships than just four (like 10 to 13, depending on how you count them ...). See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... Enterprise
for the US ones, and for links to the British ones.
And of course, there's that odd one ... the space shuttle ...
:D
I was keeping it simple and just using the US Aircraft Carriers. Of course I was wrong as the new one of the Gerald Ford Class will only be the third aircraft carrier not the fourth as I incorrectly stated.
 #17542  by John Fairbairn, KCE, MP
 Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:32 am
Chester Beedle wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:49 am
I was keeping it simple and just using the US Aircraft Carriers. Of course I was wrong as the new one of the Gerald Ford Class will only be the third aircraft carrier not the fourth as I incorrectly stated.
Ah. Understood. Thanks for that clarification.
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 #18425  by Chris Thompson, 3SL
 Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:23 am
James Sena wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:10 am
Zachary White wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:46 am
Chester Beedle wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:59 pm
On the question of if a name is recycled, it would depend on why... mostly for role play purposes really.

If the ship was just put into mothballs, then it's still the same ship, just with a new crew.

If we were to say the ship was lost in battle, lost to accident, or even completely decommissioned and the new ship is there to keep the name alive... think of the USS Enterprise, the one that recently had it's keel laid will be I think the 4th ship of the name... then that crew would be keel plate owners.
That is true. In regards to TRMN tho, I don't think that we have run into that yet.

@Chris Thompson, D3SL that is an interesting prospect though - your thoughts?
There are few enough opportunities for that scenario in the Org. You would just about have to have a chapter that was List of Honor either in TRMN or in the Books for that to happen. And we restrict Canon LoH names. Most of the non-LoH names I can think of went from Homer class BC to Agamemnon class BC to Medusa or Invictus class SDs - if someone wanted to try THAT project.

The Wikia doesn't list what class the BC version of HMS Intolerant was, but that is at least one possibility (BC then SD)
While true in the books, at this moment we don't do it in the org. The reason behind that is we're held to a specific list of classes, and class-names. We can not deviate from that, with the exception being we submit a request to BuNine and hope for the best. Because of them being busy however, just getting a simple response takes several months.

So, for the time being, you can NOT get on the list, and upgrade with that name unfortunately.

I hope this helps.
 #19775  by Joe Grieco
 Sun May 27, 2018 5:53 pm
Getting back on track here, I just missed out on being a Keel Holder of the original HMS Tristram. However when we upgraded from a DD to a CA as the HMS Snow Leopard, I became a Keel Holder. The Tristram has since been reactivated in new fleet with a new crew, so they are not considered Keel Holders.

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