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Re: LACs with Energy Torpedos

PostPosted:Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:29 pm
by Richard Brown
Also fitting lacs with energy torpedoes would make the lacs only good for one form of attack. The Graser/missile set up gives them much more tactical flexibility especially in medium and long range engagements.

Re: LACs with Energy Torpedos

PostPosted:Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:14 pm
by John MacMillan
Andrew Sivula wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:07 am
The problem with going with ET's is that with Bow and stern walls coming into usage they will become non-viable vs the graser, they are also space intensive as compared to the single graser of the shrike class.
So that's a question I've been wondering. Is there a reason that the Grav lance can't be installed on a missile?

Re: LACs with Energy Torpedos

PostPosted:Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:39 pm
by Michael Panter
If I had to guess, it would be a matter of size. HMS Fearless had to lose something on the order of 90% of her armament to mount a single grav lance and accompanying energy torpedoes: it went from 14 missiles and 4 grasers down to 2 missiles in her broadside, as well as gutting the accompanying ammunition magazine space. Given that, it seems likely that it would be impractical to mount a weapon which occupies the better part of a light cruiser on a even a single-drive missile, despite advances in the technology since that point.

That said, this is simply hypothesizing.

Edited: For clarity of point.

Re: LACs with Energy Torpedos

PostPosted:Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:15 pm
by Justin Grays
Michael Panter wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:39 pm
If I had to guess, it would be a matter of size. HMS Fearless had to lose something on the order of 90% of her armament to mount a single grav lance and accompanying energy torpedoes: it went from 14 missiles and 4 grasers down to 2 missiles in her broadside, as well as gutting the accompanying ammunition magazine space. Given that, it seems likely that it would be impractical to mount a weapon which occupies the better part of a light cruiser on a even a single-drive missile, despite advances in the technology since that point.

That said, this is simply hypothesizing.

Edited: For clarity of point.
That totally makes sense to me, in all honesty.

Re: LACs with Energy Torpedos

PostPosted:Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:45 pm
by Zachary White
Michael Panter wrote:If I had to guess, it would be a matter of size. HMS Fearless had to lose something on the order of 90% of her armament to mount a single grav lance and accompanying energy torpedoes: it went from 14 missiles and 4 grasers down to 2 missiles in her broadside, as well as gutting the accompanying ammunition magazine space. Given that, it seems likely that it would be impractical to mount a weapon which occupies the better part of a light cruiser on a even a single-drive missile, despite advances in the technology since that point.

That said, this is simply hypothesizing.

Edited: For clarity of point.
She had to loose her missile tubes and Grasers yes - but didn’t she already have the energy torpedoes - I didn’t think that was part of the Grav Lance - pretty sure that is standard equipment on all ships - just isn’t talked about much due to almost never being in range to use them effectively - could be wrong tho - that is off the top of my head


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Re: LACs with Energy Torpedos

PostPosted:Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:47 pm
by Michael Panter
Zachary White wrote:
Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:45 pm
She had to loose her missile tubes and Grasers yes - but didn’t she already have the energy torpedoes - I didn’t think that was part of the Grav Lance - pretty sure that is standard equipment on all ships - just isn’t talked about much due to almost never being in range to use them effectively - could be wrong tho - that is off the top of my head

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While it's not part of the grav lance, energy torpedoes are kind of the point of the grav lance; they're useless if a sidewall is present. It's the grav lance with the range issue, though. As for the torpedoes being standard, I can't speak to that, as I don't have access to the books at the moment; sorry.

Re: LACs with Energy Torpedos

PostPosted:Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:26 pm
by Andrew Sivula
ET were not standard on a CL since they are so short ranged, they still were standard on the DN and SD 1901 era classes

Michael Panter wrote:
Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:47 pm
Zachary White wrote:
Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:45 pm
She had to loose her missile tubes and Grasers yes - but didn’t she already have the energy torpedoes - I didn’t think that was part of the Grav Lance - pretty sure that is standard equipment on all ships - just isn’t talked about much due to almost never being in range to use them effectively - could be wrong tho - that is off the top of my head

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While it's not part of the grav lance, energy torpedoes are kind of the point of the grav lance; they're useless if a sidewall is present. It's the grav lance with the range issue, though. As for the torpedoes being standard, I can't speak to that, as I don't have access to the books at the moment; sorry.

Re: LACs with Energy Torpedos

PostPosted:Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:59 am
by Mitch Dunn
Silly thought, but just because the ships drive has gone old school does not mean you couldn't set up mag bottles purely for weapon use. I imagine a volley of ET's at other LAC's or other small craft would be nasty. I would not want them as primary armament, but as something adding into defense, with offensive capabilities.