Re: Marksmanship Tracking Sheet (based on RMA-Standards as per AO 1803-03) v1.6
PostPosted:Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:28 pm
If there's anything I can do to be of assistance with getting this new version tested and whatnot, please let me know.
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Then there is still an error, as Grayson does not appear to be aggregating.Christopher Bayonet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:57 am...snip... cummulative award is the Grayson Marksmanship award.
Tamera Tozer-Kilts wrote:….snip... aggregating correctly in the RMN/RMMC and Grayson sections. ...snip...
Right now I'm in the formatting process, and getting the AstroControl Stuff online in it (which should be by tonight) then I will pass it up to AstroControl and 1SL's Office for their final approval for Compliance and I will publish it at that point.Erik Plossl wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:28 pmIf there's anything I can do to be of assistance with getting this new version tested and whatnot, please let me know.
The version that is circulating is obsolete and will not be getting updated. The new version will be coming this weekend, and has been coded from scratch ... from the ground up. None of the old code is in the new version.Tamera Tozer-Kilts wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:57 pmThen there is still an error, as Grayson does not appear to be aggregating.Christopher Bayonet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:57 am...snip... cummulative award is the Grayson Marksmanship award.
Tamera Tozer-Kilts wrote:….snip... aggregating correctly in the RMN/RMMC and Grayson sections. ...snip...
Thank you for the explanation of the AO. It doesn't strike me as logical, thus I interpreted the lack of aggregation as on error.
But then, no one said AO's had to be logical.
That really seems counter-intuitive to the whole idea of making any games count towards RMN/RMMC marksmanship qualifications, as you STILL have to put in a gazillion hours at one single type of game to earn a ribbon, instead of all games that count for rifle under the RMN/RMMC equivalency . . . counting for rifle.Andrew Sivula wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:36 amBased on the AO you do not add the weapon specializations together to get the rmn weapon qualification, you take the highest one and use that one, that is why its listed as max not sum
It does not provide for an easier path... It provides for alternative paths.Shel Tozer-Kilts wrote:That really seems counter-intuitive to the whole idea of making any games count towards RMN/RMMC marksmanship qualifications, as you STILL have to put in a gazillion hours at one single type of game to earn a ribbon, instead of all games that count for rifle under the RMN/RMMC equivalency . . . counting for rifle.Andrew Sivula wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:36 amBased on the AO you do not add the weapon specializations together to get the rmn weapon qualification, you take the highest one and use that one, that is why its listed as max not sum
I was very excited about this change, as it seemed like it actually put marksmanship awards in reach for those of us who don't have as much time to spend gaming, but it really doesn't after all.
I don't think MSG Tozer-Kilts is trying to not put in the hours, just point out that under the new rules if you get together every week with your ship, but play a different Army category every week you earn your Rifle and Pistol ribbons much slower than someone who only plays once a month, but plays the same Army category every month.Christopher Bayonet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:21 pmIt does not provide for an easier path... It provides for alternative paths.Shel Tozer-Kilts wrote:That really seems counter-intuitive to the whole idea of making any games count towards RMN/RMMC marksmanship qualifications, as you STILL have to put in a gazillion hours at one single type of game to earn a ribbon, instead of all games that count for rifle under the RMN/RMMC equivalency . . . counting for rifle.Andrew Sivula wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:36 amBased on the AO you do not add the weapon specializations together to get the rmn weapon qualification, you take the highest one and use that one, that is why its listed as max not sum
I was very excited about this change, as it seemed like it actually put marksmanship awards in reach for those of us who don't have as much time to spend gaming, but it really doesn't after all.
You still must face your test without being given an easy option to achieve your goal. It is more attainable but you still need to put the work in for it.
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The thing to look at is ...William Karnesky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:26 amI don't think MSG Tozer-Kilts is trying to not put in the hours, just point out that under the new rules if you get together every week with your ship, but play a different Army category every week you earn your Rifle and Pistol ribbons much slower than someone who only plays once a month, but plays the same Army category every month.Christopher Bayonet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:21 pmIt does not provide for an easier path... It provides for alternative paths.Shel Tozer-Kilts wrote:
That really seems counter-intuitive to the whole idea of making any games count towards RMN/RMMC marksmanship qualifications, as you STILL have to put in a gazillion hours at one single type of game to earn a ribbon, instead of all games that count for rifle under the RMN/RMMC equivalency . . . counting for rifle.
I was very excited about this change, as it seemed like it actually put marksmanship awards in reach for those of us who don't have as much time to spend gaming, but it really doesn't after all.
You still must face your test without being given an easy option to achieve your goal. It is more attainable but you still need to put the work in for it.
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That implementation is a bit counter to the purpose of widening the available games.