The Royal Manticoran Navy: The Official Honor Harrington Fan Association

Peter, in first fleet we are tracking the weapon specialization as well and will notate what weapons they qualufied in as well as the overall category

Peter Gold wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:56 pm

Ok, odd question.
Now that system is sort of the same over all branches it's probably a good idea to keep count of all the categories until all are maxed out?
I'm thinking that if somebody shifts from navy to army the games played already as navy would end up counting towards the actual army awards. Rather than just getting army pistol based on navy pistol, they might have 3 or 4 army weapons that had counted towards navy pistol.

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Peter Gold wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:56 pm

Ok, odd question.
Now that system is sort of the same over all branches it's probably a good idea to keep count of all the categories until all are maxed out?
I'm thinking that if somebody shifts from navy to army the games played already as navy would end up counting towards the actual army awards. Rather than just getting army pistol based on navy pistol, they might have 3 or 4 army weapons that had counted towards navy pistol.

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Peter,

That's how I am working the spreadsheet ... And the way that I am viewing the awards are:

Grayson Marksmanship - "General Marksmanship"
RMN Pistol/Rifle - "Navy Qualifications"
RMA Weapon Classes - "Weapon Specialties"

Christopher Bayonet wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:21 pm

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Andrew Sivula wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:36 am

Based on the AO you do not add the weapon specializations together to get the rmn weapon qualification, you take the highest one and use that one, that is why its listed as max not sum

That really seems counter-intuitive to the whole idea of making any games count towards RMN/RMMC marksmanship qualifications, as you STILL have to put in a gazillion hours at one single type of game to earn a ribbon, instead of all games that count for rifle under the RMN/RMMC equivalency . . . counting for rifle.

I was very excited about this change, as it seemed like it actually put marksmanship awards in reach for those of us who don't have as much time to spend gaming, but it really doesn't after all.

It does not provide for an easier path... It provides for alternative paths.

You still must face your test without being given an easy option to achieve your goal. It is more attainable but you still need to put the work in for it.

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I'd really like to request that you dial back the attitude.

You don't know how much I and other folks in my chapter work, or how spread out my chapter is, or how hard it is to get folks together to game - especially when not everybody is a wargamer, or willing to grind hours and hours on one single game or type of game. Most of us have other hobbies outside of TRMN as well.

As William said, I'm not looking for an "easy path." I'm looking for a path that doesn't require me to force everybody to play the same damn game every time we get together, when there are multiple games that would count towards rifle, if the Army hadn't broken them into different weapons. I'm totally fine with playing Memoir '44 every single weekend until I get the hours for High Expert. There are people in my chapter who are willing to play once or twice, but primarily they'd rather play other games.

When you're talking about asking people to put in 600 hours, don't you think allowing different categories under the Army rules to count under the Navy/Marine rules is a small bone to throw?

Do you have a more generic version of the form as yours is written for the 3rd Fleet?

and why cant Naval personnel qualify with army weapons? its canon that Scotty Tremaine was qualified High Expert with a Plasma Carbine... per his chasing after Honor when they were clearing Blackbird Base in Honor of the Queen

I'd think you could qualify on the army weapons. You wouldn't get a ribbon for them though.

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the problem I have with this is the if were opening up marksmanship categories there should be some kind of naval equivilant especially for those of us who have crosstrained, opening up the categories as to whats playable isnt a big help when navy personnel cant qualify for them... my crew primarily plays Artemis, I am working on getting other games going... fleetwide I would have to look closer at statistics

Uh unless I'm misunderstanding your comments, all the army categories count for the navy. A bunch of army weapon categories count for navy pistol and the other ones count for navy rifle.

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No Sir, your not misunderstanding, my question is why cant navy personnel who cross-train as marines also earn the marine medals? or am I mis-understanding the implications of whats canon?

The Marines, use the Navy Ribbons for rifle/pistol, only the army has distinct weapon qualifications.

Kevin Walsh wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:52 am

No Sir, your not misunderstanding, my question is why cant navy personnel who cross-train as marines also earn the marine medals? or am I mis-understanding the implications of whats canon?